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exposing the truth one secret at a time

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prepare yourself as we explore the

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shadow worlds of suppressed history

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secret knowledge forbidden religion and

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welcome to night-vision radio

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good evening everyone welcome to night

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vision I am your host Renee Barnett I'm

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so glad you could join me tonight I do

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have a very fun and exciting show

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planned for tonight but before I get

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into the heart of the subject matter of

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the show tonight I did want to just

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recognize someone who left this plane

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just a week ago but I a lot of you may

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know him and a lot of you may be

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familiar with his work

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he's my good friend Edward Flaherty who

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was my Paris producer in my film

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bloodline that many of you are familiar

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with he was also our Paris producer and

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was actually on camera and bloodlines so

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it wasn't just that he worked behind the

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camera he also was on camera in the film

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and that's where a lot of people

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remember him from but Edward died

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suddenly in kanne France a week ago a

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little over a week ago and he will be

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sorely missed I mean it was very

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shocking and my goodness he was such a

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light in the world it's you know it when

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when someone that's so positive and so

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funny and so mischievous leaves us we

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really recognize you know what a loss

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that it is and it just really I would

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urge everyone just to hold your friends

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and family tightly because we never know

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how long that we have on this earthly

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plane and I want to say to Edward be

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glorious my friend and I will see you

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one day all right well thank you very

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much Edward for all your good work and

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all the fun times that we had and I will

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from here switch over into our show

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tonight

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you know it's Thursday which of course

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our show is airs live every Thursday

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here on inception radio network but I

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was thinking about tonight

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in particular being a throwback Thursday

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because tonight I'm going to take a

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little walk down memory lane and I'm

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going to take you with me and I'm going

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to take my guests along with us as our

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guide as a matter of fact my guest

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tonight is

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Dave Aaron a lot of you may remember him

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or have heard of heard of him called

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video Dave but he was the creator of of

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UFO audio video clearinghouse now when I

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first came across Dave

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it was gosh back in probably around 1990

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or early 91 when I started working for

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UFO magazine I was the managing editor

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there under the publisher and

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editor-in-chief vickicooper at that time

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she later married our research director

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Don Ecker and became vickicooper Ecker

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and then I did a radio program for five

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years with Don Ecker called UFOs tonight

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and the UFO audio-video Clearing House

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was our sponsor for most of that five

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years that we that I worked on the show

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live and we ended up developing great

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relationship with Dave Aaron and he's

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kind of legendary in the UFO field and

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now he has the largest video library in

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the world Dave I want to welcome you to

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the show should have had you on a long

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time ago well very kind of inception

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radio and very interesting Renee that

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were on the night after a Halloween and

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the name of the show is night vision

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that's right that's right

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now you know I was you know talking to

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you earlier and you you shared with me a

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story about how really you got sort of

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sparked in your interest in UFOs and it

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was such a wonderful story because it

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goes back a long time it goes back into

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1964 and a night any of those of us who

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were alive and old enough to remember

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will remember that time because it was

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the first appearance of the Beatles on

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television in the United States and they

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were airing on The Ed Sullivan Show and

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9 February 9 1964 well so you along with

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your parents at that time we're watching

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that show and then can you just tell me

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what happened after that because this

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was sort of the beginning of it all

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well back in those days of course there

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was no video recorders but there were

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audio recorders and I used to hang the

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microphone for those of you for those

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arrested in our in our age group between

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I guess 40 and 70 like I used to hang

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the microphone over the speaker of the

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television and I don't know how many

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people remember the late Joe Pyne or Y

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and Betty Hills very first appearance on

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a Louis Lomax show on slots TV and then

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I was sitting recording Barney and Betty

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Hill that same night telling their story

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on black and white TV and my dad you

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know coming up quick come here quick

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right so I'm in the front room there and

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the whole backyard is glowing orange and

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my dad and I and my mother and I had

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come back from the skydiving exhibit not

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too far back maybe about three months

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prior to that a lot of these skydivers

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attach flares to their boots so we were

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trying to figure out in our mind when

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you see a UFO because we know what a

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helicopter is we know what a blimp is

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you know we know what a jet is we know

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what a propeller plane is so your brain

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kind of short-circuits out because

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you're trying to put logic into what

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you're seeing right and if you hold as

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you can picture yourself holding a 50

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cent piece on an angle this thing was

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swaying back and forth about the size of

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the star and I kept going like they

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caught the falling leaf effect in UFO

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ology and I think kept coming closer and

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closer and closer and then when I came

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right over our backyard it flipped over

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so the orange light was really a light

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on top of it

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then if you remember the the the scene

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with Richard Dreyfuss and Close

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Encounters of the Third Kind where he

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stopped at the railroad track and that

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you'd write what light lights lights up

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his truck remember everything shoots out

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of the dashboard and as a glove

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compartment and all of the instruments

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started going crazy well then a big

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white light lit up from the bottom no

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sound whatsoever round craft and then

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it'll land in the field and today were

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the Pomona freeway is but my dad and I

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we didn't know what you know I didn't

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know what a UFO was a flying saucer so

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we ran out to the field that quote save

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these people in this strange-looking

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plane crash right well right there were

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that there was a field there and for

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those of people in Southern California

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that are listening to this this is

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between 7th Avenue and Hacienda

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rock over where the kids can walk over

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the top of the freeway to go to the

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school on the other side of the freeway

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but at that time in 1964 we lived on a

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dead not a cul-de-sac but just a

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dead-end street that had a barrier on it

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and then the rest was the field set

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aside for the future building of the

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Pabon freeway so there's just there's

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just craft out there which i think is a

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very large like 2 or 3 engine jet right

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because it was decided like two

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Greyhound buses so I figured there were

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people hurt in it so I'm running up

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running down the field and very strange

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Renee that I think about this back back

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many times but I think that of the wind

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rustling and all the crickets you hear

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in a field and things like that it was

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totally silent there wasn't a single

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sound in that area in that field so when

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I got up to the craft about six feet

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from it my father hid behind a bush

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about 20 to 30 feet away and he says

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get away from it get away from us one of

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those Flying Saucer things and I didn't

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know what a Flying Saucer thing was I

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heard it as a joke from people throwing

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frisbees and things like that so I

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thought there were people hurt in it and

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I was 21 years old at the time and I

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asked anybody in there you need help

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right you need medical and the side of

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the craft opened up and it the best way

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to describe it to your list is if you've

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seen those Terminator movies how they

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turned like into like a liquid right a

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little square in the craft coffee about

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three feet by maybe two feet high turned

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into like a like a liquid but it wasn't

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likely was a solid as well kind of like

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mercury I guess is a good way to

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describe it

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a beam shot out of that hit me in the

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chest and it lifted me off the ground

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about three feet and moved me about a

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block and a half away from the field and

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gently set me down on the street now for

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those people that are listening Fox

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television did a great recreation of my

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case and you can go on to youtube and

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look up gave Aaron search for Dale Aaron

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and there's of course there's a lot of

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people in the world named Dave Aaron and

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you want to play UFO evidence collector

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comma Dave Aaron and make sure you

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played along with the least amount of

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hits because the first one I put up

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there someone destroyed and took off all

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the audio but there's a new one that's

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been up there for about nine or ten

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years now so anyway my dad had run in

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the house called the police and he sees

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what's happening he sees me floating in

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the air from the bright light on the

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bottom of this craft right he sees me

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being moved by this the best way to

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describe this beam was it was a solid

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white in other words it was solid it

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wasn't like that you'd ever you can

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reflect or bend with a mirror was solid

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the best way to describe

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like you know these mechanical pencils

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where the lead comes up as you twist the

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pen or pencil that's what the light was

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like and it hit me in the side and for

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those people I told to look up on

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YouTube it's followed that same place

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day there and UFO UFO UFO evidence

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collectors comedy there and it's

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followed by a strange universe show

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where I show that burn area on my chest

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when I was on strange universe about

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probably about 25 years ago to make a

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long story as short as possible which is

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pretty hard to do it's something it's

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something that it gets burned in your

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brain when you have something like that

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because I can sit and talk to you today

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which is many years later and I can

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still recall every incident of that

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night because it was just so I'm so

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amazing so the object the object had a

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series of squares around it and when the

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first square lit up red the next square

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to it lit up orange so then a red red

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red brighter brighter brighter till it

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turned to a cherry red then you so you

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had red orange in the third square turn

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to yellow so anyway to make mimics make

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all the colors of the rainbow red orange

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yellow green blue indigo and violet

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started rotating around this craft in

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the center of it still no sound

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whatsoever and it lifts it off as if it

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only area and took off and flew to

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Burbank went over the plain hills and

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the Whittier Hills and as soon as it

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flew away the police cars arrived to

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Punk out your lives with two men in each

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cars and we told them what we saw what

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happened showed them the burn marks on

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the side of my chest and they said yeah

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we had you know like seven or eight

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other calls tonight about a strange

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object you know flying around the skies

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from Austin de Heights Rowland Heights

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Brea and yeah you people definitely saw

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something and learning then they left so

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I went back a month later saw the police

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report and the police report said that

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the object that my mother dad and I had

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witnessed that night my mother was

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watching it through the bedroom window

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in the house because we were the last

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house on the block and the police report

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sergeant the desk sergeant at the older

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the older City of Industry sheriff

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station was on Nelson Avenue and

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Hacienda Boulevard the new one is on

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Diamond Bar Boulevard because it was

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like 1964 so they said to built a

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totally new sheriff station in that area

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but anyway at that particular time the

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Sheriff's Department on Nelson Avenue in

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the City of Industry I looked at that

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report and it listed my name and my

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dad's name and my mother's name and I

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said the object of three of us that we

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saw that night must have been a

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helicopter and I just freaked out I told

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the death judge and I said impossible

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helicopters do not have being to lift

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people off the ground helicopters do not

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have beams that push people backwards

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and lay them gently on the street

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helicopters make a terrible noise you

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know I want to see the commanding

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officer here so a captain came and I

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told the captain I did you change that

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police report right now that was not a

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helicopter of course the 1964 we didn't

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know all the things we know today in

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2017 here you know in November so I mean

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I demanded I mean I was so mad Renee you

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have no idea in other words they were

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calling up my mother and my dad and I

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fools right that we couldn't tell a

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helicopter from an unknown object so

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anyway the the captain there said that

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if I didn't get out of there and quit

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making a commotion

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he was gonna arrest me for being a

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nuisance

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so I left and I said someday I'm going

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to get even with you people

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someday and then the home video recorder

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came out and the rest is history

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that's where that's where it all started

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that's where it all started for you in

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the in the audio video clearinghouse now

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when you you know that that event

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happened in 64 now strange universe

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where I worked on that series as you

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know was in 96 and 97 so yeah but so you

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were able to to show those marks that

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far down the road and are those marks

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still so on you write that in that

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particular area no chest hair will grow

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or anything it's just totally well I

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can't remember there was a case in

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Canada and maybe you can pull it up for

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me there was a Frenchman in Canada I

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want to cause the Lubeck case but I may

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be wrong and he had a series of burn

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marks across his chest you remember that

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case where our UFO came and he got too

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close to it and it blasted off and it

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left these round circles all across his

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chest you remember that case at all I

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don't remember that case but I do

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remember the case in Texas of the woman

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and her son and her mother who got

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radiation - Landrum case that's it

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that's right yeah what was that's a

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little different than the lines were

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referring to anyway so this gentleman

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here had three four rows of four rows of

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four circles going across which look

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like an exhaust port exhaust that burned

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him on his chest and well what happened

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to me was a totally different type of

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device or whatever it was it was just a

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solid beam that had hit me an ad that

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beam came towards me I moved so as I

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move the beam moved across my chest - so

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you know I can only refer today in our

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type of talk earthling type of talk as a

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laser but lasers don't levitate people

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either or push them back so anyway I

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started out with three video recorders

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which one I financed well my dad bought

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for me and one we put on a mobile credit

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card and the first catalog was a page

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and a half of just people that I knew in

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television or cameraman and television

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that shot stuff light on those day they

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use 16 millimeter motion picture film

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with sound and a lot of home.you a lot

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of just citizens used 8 millimeter movie

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film and I took 2 8 millimeter movie

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film and once the video recorder came

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out I transferred all that footage onto

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videotape and once I started advertising

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not only in UFO magazine which I which

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was probably the which is and was and

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will always be the best UFO magazine

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ever published with you and Vicki ficky

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TV or was vickicooper it's Vicky Acker

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now right and and on and every other UFO

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magazine there was at that time and we

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ended up with over like a hundred and

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sixty-five thousand members and then

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Hollywood started calling and we worked

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on the Roswell movie and we get about

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nine shows for hardcopy entertainment

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tonight the Walt Disney Company fire in

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the sky paramount so you mentioned fire

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in the sky you know when you were

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talking about that beam hitting you it

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sort of reminded me of the Travis Walton

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case and right because he was hit by a

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beam in the movie

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what well what really happened we don't

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know because I guess you know it was Mel

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tormé son you know that wrote the script

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on that movie had enough you aware of

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that or not yep Tracy Tracy Torme

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Hey Joe Casey Torme that's right yeah

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absolutely no I never I never put those

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two together and maybe maybe Travis

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longed I had by a much more powerful or

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different types of beams because he was

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knocked out I wasn't knocked out so

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whether the example was manned or

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unmanned and I always get people saying

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well did you see any aliens and no I

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didn't see any aliens but what I saw

427
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definitely was nothing we had of that

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type of technology going back to 1964

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see time goes by real fast we've been on

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the air almost a half hour already and

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I've only told you like five percent of

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what what has happened throughout this

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history absolutely

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well you know have you in Travis Walt

435
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never spoken and compared stories no

436
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I've never met them Aaron oh oh oh oh

437
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you probably should you two should

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probably talk but I can't tell you two

439
00:22:04,840 --> 00:22:01,400
interesting things just about six months

440
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ago yeah I think it was five or six

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months ago

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friend of mine and I did some research

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on the travelers wall the Travis Walton

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case and the Roswell case right there

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00:22:21,640 --> 00:22:18,910
have been a hundred and ninety-seven

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documentaries on Roswell

447
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and there have been 72 documentaries on

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the Travis long case pretty interesting

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00:22:33,280 --> 00:22:30,560
it really is

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I remember you also early on in the show

451
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mentioned Betty and Barney Hill and

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getting that video of them being on that

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first interview I'd love to see that

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sometime by the way but I got a chance

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to yeah because that was an audio taping

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what happened was if you go if you go to

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google and type in city destroys rare

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UFO audio tapes my

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at home and she calls me and tells me

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that there's these men all around the

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house and he's white suits right and

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they're in the garage taking out all my

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videotapes which went back to 1941 under

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audio tapes

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I had the world largest audiotape

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cluster from old radio shows and what I

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went up to them and I said hey you know

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you're invading my property and they had

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a court order to be able to go into the

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house and take whatever they needed so I

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had a video camera so I started shooting

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them with my my VHS movie camera and

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they took that away from me also it was

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returned about six weeks later so I went

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back out of still camera and took

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pictures with a still camera hiding in

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my car so if you go on google and type

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in city destroys rare UFO audio tapes

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you'll see those pictures I took as well

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as the men and white coveralls wearing

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masks breathing apparatus mask probably

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not to be he's not to be seen going in

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and throwing all that stuff in the Dipsy

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dumpster and here's the reason I think

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why I was able to get from area 51 a

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recording I have no idea who sent it to

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me and this has been mentioned in quite

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a few radio shows these are the dr. Bob

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promises of course I do yeah absolutely

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he's been on we've had him as a guest on

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this show as well okay yeah in fact that

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that case broken I'm the doctor doctor

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for information broke on the dr. Bob

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Sherwood haven't repeated just for just

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from like my own curiosity why would

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they send eight men to a house right and

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just want to go in a garage and start

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going and looking for videotapes of

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which there were about our audio tapes

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I'm sorry

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1,200 of them and here's the reason I

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think I had a recording from area 51 or

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a jet pilot took off from the air folks

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I believe that Nellis Air Force Base in

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Nevada am I correct you your listeners

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can correct me I think through the

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internet yeah that's right and he he

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puts out a mayday mayday mayday mayday I

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had a flameout I need to land I need to

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land right so he's in that restricted

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airspace over area 51 right and the

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other guy comes back and says what you

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can't land here it's restricted to

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restricted air race and again I have a

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flameout you know I'm diving from you

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know from seven thousand or ten thousand

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feet right and if I don't land I'll

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crash and you're the only strip nearby

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and then the other voices we don't care

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if you crash or not you're not landing

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here and the pilot was able to reach

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dark that engine and land back at Nellis

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I think that's the gate they were

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looking for but I guess gosh I read hang

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on right there we're gonna take a quick

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break but when we come back you can

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continue your story and we're gonna have

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so much more with video Dave Aaron when

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welcome back to night vision I'm your

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host Renee Barnett thanks so much for

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joining us tonight you were talking with

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Dave Aaron he is the owner and collector

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of the largest audio and video UFO

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00:27:02,659 --> 00:26:58,860
library in the world don't want video

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because no more no more audio because

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they were all taken away by by but I

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know people that date by the way was

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March 24th 2012 when all my audio tapes

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were taken that's really well that's

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really well you know you know and also

541
00:27:27,230 --> 00:27:25,889
we had talked a you know we started

542
00:27:29,840 --> 00:27:27,240
talking about the audio tapes when I

543
00:27:33,950 --> 00:27:29,850
brought up Betty and Barney Hill story I

544
00:27:36,470 --> 00:27:33,960
had a chance to meet Betty hill at one

545
00:27:39,799 --> 00:27:36,480
of the UFO conferences many years ago

546
00:27:42,710 --> 00:27:39,809
and we got to be friends and had lots of

547
00:27:45,889 --> 00:27:42,720
great phone conversations with her she

548
00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:45,899
was living in Canada and I was here in

549
00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:50,610
Los Angeles but she was such a smart

550
00:27:58,070 --> 00:27:54,330
lady and a real funny lady going very

551
00:28:01,519 --> 00:27:58,080
gentle yeah she was on I believe it was

552
00:28:04,490 --> 00:28:01,529
Bob around mr. show and I was on as a

553
00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:04,500
second guest right and she was just so

554
00:28:13,820 --> 00:28:11,730
normal so natural and yes what was

555
00:28:16,820 --> 00:28:13,830
interesting was that you know that was

556
00:28:19,070 --> 00:28:16,830
sort of the first you know alien

557
00:28:21,169 --> 00:28:19,080
abduction case for one of a better term

558
00:28:25,399 --> 00:28:21,179
to sort of come out into the public

559
00:28:28,490 --> 00:28:25,409
purview so the things that they came up

560
00:28:30,139 --> 00:28:28,500
with in their hypnotic regressions with

561
00:28:32,360 --> 00:28:30,149
their psychiatrist who they went to see

562
00:28:34,610 --> 00:28:32,370
because the problems that they began to

563
00:28:39,860 --> 00:28:34,620
have after this experience that they had

564
00:28:42,889 --> 00:28:39,870
in the forest there and they you know

565
00:28:44,299 --> 00:28:42,899
came up with all these interesting facts

566
00:28:46,759 --> 00:28:44,309
and things that they could not have

567
00:28:50,060 --> 00:28:46,769
known about you know planetary placement

568
00:28:51,649 --> 00:28:50,070
that wasn't even known yet the

569
00:28:53,480 --> 00:28:51,659
telescope's hadn't even picked them up

570
00:28:55,520 --> 00:28:53,490
yet until much later they

571
00:28:58,040 --> 00:28:55,530
were found to be very accurate that

572
00:29:01,400 --> 00:28:58,050
Betty drew these star maps and things

573
00:29:04,100 --> 00:29:01,410
that she was shown and anyway she was

574
00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:04,110
just a great lady really you know

575
00:29:08,419 --> 00:29:05,970
down-to-earth you know you don't think

576
00:29:10,130 --> 00:29:08,429
of you know talking about UFOs you don't

577
00:29:12,140 --> 00:29:10,140
think of describing someone who's down

578
00:29:14,020 --> 00:29:12,150
to earth but she really really was and

579
00:29:16,820 --> 00:29:14,030
she and Barney of course were both

580
00:29:21,500 --> 00:29:16,830
social social workers and they were both

581
00:29:23,390 --> 00:29:21,510
activists he was a postman and they were

582
00:29:26,390 --> 00:29:23,400
you know they were both activists though

583
00:29:29,510 --> 00:29:26,400
and they were really really interesting

584
00:29:31,580 --> 00:29:29,520
and nice and kind people and I got to

585
00:29:34,070 --> 00:29:31,590
know Betty fairly well and I asked her

586
00:29:36,650 --> 00:29:34,080
you know we hear all about these all

587
00:29:39,890 --> 00:29:36,660
these cases these abduction cases and

588
00:29:42,290 --> 00:29:39,900
contactees and all these things you know

589
00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:42,300
what do you think about all this and she

590
00:29:47,180 --> 00:29:44,250
said well you know I think you know

591
00:29:49,100 --> 00:29:47,190
obviously some could be accurate some I

592
00:29:51,500 --> 00:29:49,110
don't believe she said but there's one

593
00:29:54,500 --> 00:29:51,510
case that I tell you she says I believe

594
00:29:58,520 --> 00:29:54,510
totally this happened and that was the

595
00:30:01,430 --> 00:29:58,530
Travis Walton case and I thought that

596
00:30:03,710 --> 00:30:01,440
was you know that was really a good sort

597
00:30:06,590 --> 00:30:03,720
of endorsement for Travis's story and I

598
00:30:08,510 --> 00:30:06,600
had met Travis as well you know during

599
00:30:10,820 --> 00:30:08,520
the course of my time at UFO magazine

600
00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:10,830
and then and then later on doing

601
00:30:15,950 --> 00:30:13,170
television shows and going to the

602
00:30:19,430 --> 00:30:15,960
various UFO events and he did strike me

603
00:30:24,350 --> 00:30:19,440
as very you know kind of honest guy and

604
00:30:27,530 --> 00:30:24,360
I know in talks with Tracy Torme Tracy

605
00:30:31,610 --> 00:30:27,540
actually chased Travis Walton for like

606
00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:31,620
ten years after this incident yeah

607
00:30:36,020 --> 00:30:34,170
Travis did not want the attention he was

608
00:30:38,180 --> 00:30:36,030
not looking to make money he was not

609
00:30:40,669 --> 00:30:38,190
looking for attention he wanted to

610
00:30:43,460 --> 00:30:40,679
forget about it he didn't want his kids

611
00:30:47,990 --> 00:30:43,470
a fire in a silo came from a book he

612
00:30:49,549 --> 00:30:48,000
wrote didn't it yes he it was originally

613
00:30:52,610 --> 00:30:49,559
called the travels along this way I

614
00:30:54,799 --> 00:30:52,620
wanted something on Bryan Betty he open

615
00:30:56,780 --> 00:30:54,809
you're probably aware of but you may not

616
00:30:58,790 --> 00:30:56,790
have mentioned that those people don't

617
00:31:03,200 --> 00:30:58,800
don't know who blinding Betty Hill is

618
00:31:06,450 --> 00:31:03,210
their doctor was Benjamin Simon did I

619
00:31:09,570 --> 00:31:06,460
pull it out right there doctor was Ben

620
00:31:14,580 --> 00:31:09,580
humans I my mom was like 99% sure that

621
00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:14,590
was his name and anyway his conclusion

622
00:31:20,070 --> 00:31:17,610
was that they came up with dream

623
00:31:23,390 --> 00:31:20,080
transference I'm sure you've heard this

624
00:31:26,310 --> 00:31:23,400
many times right that Bonnie or Betty

625
00:31:29,990 --> 00:31:26,320
we're intercepting each other's dreams

626
00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:30,000
which Rene has to be the most stupidest

627
00:31:36,840 --> 00:31:34,690
dumbest most ignorant psychiatrist I

628
00:31:39,180 --> 00:31:36,850
have ever heard come up with an

629
00:31:41,580 --> 00:31:39,190
explanation when the more logical

630
00:31:45,870 --> 00:31:41,590
explanation in my mind and I've been

631
00:31:48,690 --> 00:31:45,880
doing this for 55 years now was that

632
00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:48,700
they had some kind of strange unknown

633
00:31:54,330 --> 00:31:52,090
encounter so it's rather strange at

634
00:31:57,270 --> 00:31:54,340
Benjamin Simon and the doctor that

635
00:31:59,040 --> 00:31:57,280
worked on the case would use do hi it's

636
00:32:01,470 --> 00:31:59,050
me that little voice inside your head

637
00:32:03,750 --> 00:32:01,480
you spent all year taking care of

638
00:32:06,210 --> 00:32:03,760
business but Office Depot office max

639
00:32:08,330 --> 00:32:06,220
take care of you there's this new HP

640
00:32:12,630 --> 00:32:08,340
Pavilion laptop with eighth generation

641
00:32:17,700 --> 00:32:12,640
Intel Core i5 processor save 200 bucks

642
00:32:21,660 --> 00:32:17,710
now just 449 look at it it's only 449 at

643
00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:21,670
Office Depot office max go ahead deserve

644
00:32:31,410 --> 00:32:26,650
it offer ends 1111 limit one thing

645
00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:31,420
transform now 25 years after the Betty

646
00:32:37,890 --> 00:32:35,410
and Barney Hill case broke right the

647
00:32:42,030 --> 00:32:37,900
nearest Air Force Base there was Pease

648
00:32:45,230 --> 00:32:42,040
Air Force Base PE ASC and they denied

649
00:32:48,120 --> 00:32:45,240
and denied into 9 for 25 or 30 years

650
00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:48,130
that there was nothing in that area that

651
00:32:54,660 --> 00:32:51,490
night nothing on radar whatsoever until

652
00:32:57,900 --> 00:32:54,670
finally they didn't that yes at that

653
00:33:00,630 --> 00:32:57,910
same night at that exact same time that

654
00:33:03,570 --> 00:33:00,640
Brian Berryhill said they were in the

655
00:33:05,940 --> 00:33:03,580
White Mountains of New Hampshire that

656
00:33:07,950 --> 00:33:05,950
yes there wasn't a known object at that

657
00:33:10,520 --> 00:33:07,960
in that area at that time were you aware

658
00:33:12,810 --> 00:33:10,530
that no it wasn't

659
00:33:16,530 --> 00:33:12,820
yes sir was that you know very

660
00:33:18,990 --> 00:33:16,540
interesting yeah I mean that was when

661
00:33:23,100 --> 00:33:19,000
you had when you had when you had

662
00:33:26,850 --> 00:33:23,110
Mack a ended up with like about 45,000

663
00:33:29,370 --> 00:33:26,860
hours of UFO for the job that I ran over

664
00:33:31,860 --> 00:33:29,380
and over and over for different

665
00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:31,870
customers and as you start saying things

666
00:33:36,930 --> 00:33:34,690
over and over and over and over you

667
00:33:40,230 --> 00:33:36,940
remember little details that you know

668
00:33:43,050 --> 00:33:40,240
what you get out to the public I can

669
00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:43,060
imagine and now you know I know that

670
00:33:48,120 --> 00:33:45,850
people you obtained videos that you

671
00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:48,130
recorded you know from things that you

672
00:33:54,450 --> 00:33:51,250
saw in the air you also people started

673
00:33:57,060 --> 00:33:54,460
sending you their private videos and I

674
00:34:00,060 --> 00:33:57,070
couldn't believe the tapes I was getting

675
00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:00,070
in by the by the tens and twenties per

676
00:34:05,160 --> 00:34:03,850
day and were they coming now did it get

677
00:34:07,580 --> 00:34:05,170
to the point where they were coming from

678
00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:07,590
different places around the world oh

679
00:34:13,860 --> 00:34:11,290
yeah I got tapes from Israel I got tapes

680
00:34:16,710 --> 00:34:13,870
from Greece I got tapes from Italy

681
00:34:19,530 --> 00:34:16,720
I got gobs of tapes from England the

682
00:34:21,930 --> 00:34:19,540
problem was in those countries there's

683
00:34:25,830 --> 00:34:21,940
four different types of television

684
00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:25,840
transmissions in the world so if a

685
00:34:32,580 --> 00:34:29,290
company orders like RCA for example

686
00:34:35,370 --> 00:34:32,590
actually started the VHS machine which

687
00:34:38,460 --> 00:34:35,380
they brought the first ones from JVC and

688
00:34:40,530 --> 00:34:38,470
they made no profit on it it was nine

689
00:34:43,740 --> 00:34:40,540
hundred ninety nine dollars it only had

690
00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:43,750
one speed which was SP or standard play

691
00:34:52,340 --> 00:34:47,890
and RCA figured they would make their

692
00:34:54,690 --> 00:34:52,350
money on accessories which they did

693
00:34:57,840 --> 00:34:54,700
battery packs and things like that

694
00:35:06,390 --> 00:34:57,850
carrying cases this was way before there

695
00:35:08,730 --> 00:35:06,400
was a camcorder so as time went on my

696
00:35:12,860 --> 00:35:08,740
first early tapes mainly were the

697
00:35:19,350 --> 00:35:12,870
Betamax format because that was invented

698
00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:19,360
the first Betamax came out 1979 not the

699
00:35:24,650 --> 00:35:20,970
reel-to-reel Betamax

700
00:35:27,690 --> 00:35:24,660
but the Betamax it took the cassette so

701
00:35:29,360 --> 00:35:27,700
yeah and what was so strange as I

702
00:35:30,950 --> 00:35:29,370
remember sitting down in front of my

703
00:35:33,380 --> 00:35:30,960
Xerox

704
00:35:35,210 --> 00:35:33,390
they're thinking well what do I want to

705
00:35:37,490 --> 00:35:35,220
call a stupid idea

706
00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:37,500
and I just said well we'll call it the

707
00:35:43,849 --> 00:35:40,530
UFO audio-video Clearinghouse because

708
00:35:47,150 --> 00:35:43,859
the name of your company always wants to

709
00:35:49,940 --> 00:35:47,160
be able to tell you what your business

710
00:35:53,589 --> 00:35:49,950
is that's one of the prime rules of

711
00:35:57,109 --> 00:35:53,599
business and of course I'm also an

712
00:35:58,700 --> 00:35:57,119
investor in a stock market and you learn

713
00:36:01,040 --> 00:35:58,710
a lot about companies and I've been

714
00:36:05,120 --> 00:36:01,050
doing that for G about thirty years

715
00:36:07,070 --> 00:36:05,130
myself also so like UFO magazine that

716
00:36:10,010 --> 00:36:07,080
was the name of the magazine UFO

717
00:36:13,700 --> 00:36:10,020
magazine you know exactly what it was it

718
00:36:15,710 --> 00:36:13,710
was a magazine about UFOs and with are

719
00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:15,720
you a full audio and video clearing out

720
00:36:19,579 --> 00:36:17,490
so I just think was just dumb luck

721
00:36:21,290 --> 00:36:19,589
that's after name I chose for the

722
00:36:23,510 --> 00:36:21,300
company and people knew exactly what it

723
00:36:28,790 --> 00:36:23,520
was it was a place where you could send

724
00:36:30,890 --> 00:36:28,800
UFO videos or UFO audios and see what

725
00:36:33,859 --> 00:36:30,900
somebody else shot if someone shot a UFO

726
00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:33,869
in Florida in fact one of the largest

727
00:36:39,470 --> 00:36:36,690
tapes that we set one we there was many

728
00:36:43,430 --> 00:36:39,480
but one of the largest cases that we

729
00:36:45,620 --> 00:36:43,440
sent out was the and for some reason

730
00:36:49,790 --> 00:36:45,630
right now my name the name was a blank

731
00:36:53,660 --> 00:36:49,800
but it was the case in Florida where the

732
00:36:58,940 --> 00:36:53,670
gentleman kept shooting UFOs in Florida

733
00:37:01,670 --> 00:36:58,950
how the Fort Walton Beach was it that

734
00:37:10,250 --> 00:37:01,680
right but I'm sorry add something that

735
00:37:13,730 --> 00:37:10,260
she had is that Walken name that was big

736
00:37:17,089 --> 00:37:13,740
news in Florida and then I got on a hard

737
00:37:21,170 --> 00:37:17,099
copy and it was another program at that

738
00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:21,180
time also out of Florida called hard

739
00:37:27,890 --> 00:37:25,290
news which was on channel cassiopi that

740
00:37:30,950 --> 00:37:27,900
also oh that guy's name was I think I

741
00:37:34,790 --> 00:37:30,960
mean one ed Walters it was ed Walters

742
00:37:38,349 --> 00:37:34,800
and it was Gulf Breeze right the Gulf

743
00:37:43,960 --> 00:37:41,660
then they found the the models made out

744
00:37:46,810 --> 00:37:43,970
of paper plates in his attic remember

745
00:37:50,350 --> 00:37:46,820
well there is he sold his house is what

746
00:37:52,390 --> 00:37:50,360
happened yeah I'm his wife live he sold

747
00:37:56,530 --> 00:37:52,400
his house in the new people that moved

748
00:38:00,490 --> 00:37:56,540
in went up into the attic and yeah found

749
00:38:06,700 --> 00:38:00,500
a model so you know you take you take

750
00:38:07,930 --> 00:38:06,710
that case very strange you take the one

751
00:38:13,450 --> 00:38:07,940
we were talking about at the beginning

752
00:38:18,310 --> 00:38:13,460
of the show the cash cash Lantern by the

753
00:38:22,390 --> 00:38:18,320
way are the names of two people Vicki

754
00:38:25,570 --> 00:38:22,400
Vicki cash Vickie Landrum and her son

755
00:38:30,670 --> 00:38:25,580
and the mother I think her name was

756
00:38:34,120 --> 00:38:30,680
Doretta cash right lord and taxes it was

757
00:38:37,300 --> 00:38:34,130
Betty Betty cash McLean that Betty cash

758
00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:37,310
right we're driving down a road in Texas

759
00:38:43,720 --> 00:38:40,490
this big triangle-shaped object comes

760
00:38:46,900 --> 00:38:43,730
across the road she gets out to look at

761
00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:46,910
it it's followed by 20 or 30 or 40

762
00:38:54,850 --> 00:38:52,010
helicopters the car gets blazing hot

763
00:38:56,650 --> 00:38:54,860
when she goes back to turn the handle on

764
00:38:58,540 --> 00:38:56,660
you know they have broken has passed

765
00:39:00,780 --> 00:38:58,550
away I don't know if you're aware of

766
00:39:03,610 --> 00:39:00,790
that or not yes yeah they have both

767
00:39:05,740 --> 00:39:03,620
babies both have since passed away but

768
00:39:08,290 --> 00:39:05,750
what you want to grab the car handle the

769
00:39:11,500 --> 00:39:08,300
car handle was so hot that it actually

770
00:39:14,320 --> 00:39:11,510
seared her hand and the dashboard

771
00:39:16,930 --> 00:39:14,330
actually started melting and smoking

772
00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:16,940
yeah so you know that she filed a

773
00:39:22,210 --> 00:39:19,010
lawsuit you know against the Air Force

774
00:39:25,060 --> 00:39:22,220
at the nearest Air Force Base there in

775
00:39:27,220 --> 00:39:25,070
Texas which I can recall the name of it

776
00:39:31,840 --> 00:39:27,230
and of course they denied her claim a

777
00:39:37,030 --> 00:39:31,850
denied her case and everything yet two

778
00:39:39,130 --> 00:39:37,040
days later a team of backhoe a backhoe

779
00:39:42,460 --> 00:39:39,140
is what you would call a steam shovel in

780
00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:42,470
the old days a backhoe came and dug up

781
00:39:48,880 --> 00:39:46,010
that entire Road and the dirt up to 12

782
00:39:54,830 --> 00:39:48,890
feet down and redid the whole road we

783
00:39:56,690 --> 00:39:54,840
were that yes yes I was absolutely

784
00:40:00,050 --> 00:39:56,700
the ladies that passed away you know

785
00:40:04,640 --> 00:40:00,060
they both got cancer and you know they

786
00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:04,650
both had radiation burns so right they

787
00:40:08,720 --> 00:40:06,450
believed you know they believed

788
00:40:11,870 --> 00:40:08,730
themselves that their illnesses were a

789
00:40:14,120 --> 00:40:11,880
direct result of that experience that

790
00:40:17,080 --> 00:40:14,130
they had the radiation burns that they

791
00:40:20,390 --> 00:40:17,090
got from whatever that was that Kraft

792
00:40:23,090 --> 00:40:20,400
see that see the general the general

793
00:40:26,090 --> 00:40:23,100
public and you know we really have to

794
00:40:32,090 --> 00:40:26,100
give credit whether it's mj-12 were

795
00:40:34,400 --> 00:40:32,100
majestic or the NSA or the the NSA or

796
00:40:38,230 --> 00:40:34,410
the CIA and there's another one that

797
00:40:40,670 --> 00:40:38,240
very few people know of called the NRO

798
00:40:43,580 --> 00:40:40,680
that's the National Reconnaissance

799
00:40:46,730 --> 00:40:43,590
Office and they're the people that run

800
00:40:51,140 --> 00:40:46,740
our run our run and run and operate our

801
00:40:53,990 --> 00:40:51,150
spy satellites right it's been like 71

802
00:40:56,330 --> 00:40:54,000
years I think since the Roswell crash or

803
00:40:59,300 --> 00:40:56,340
71 years since the first Foo Fighters

804
00:41:01,250 --> 00:40:59,310
were started and here it is to that when

805
00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:01,260
we're doing this show by the way is this

806
00:41:06,260 --> 00:41:04,410
show recorded later so people can go

807
00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:06,270
back and listen to it is there a is

808
00:41:15,530 --> 00:41:13,290
there a Dave yes there's an archive and

809
00:41:18,350 --> 00:41:15,540
it's also available on iTunes stitcher

810
00:41:20,330 --> 00:41:18,360
rho q and many many many other platforms

811
00:41:22,310 --> 00:41:20,340
it's there it's going to be available in

812
00:41:25,070 --> 00:41:22,320
a lot of places but I'll send you the

813
00:41:27,680 --> 00:41:25,080
link once it's it's posted in the

814
00:41:30,560 --> 00:41:27,690
archive on the inception radio network

815
00:41:33,040 --> 00:41:30,570
com okay let me get it even there's

816
00:41:37,250 --> 00:41:33,050
another group called the Brown Berets

817
00:41:39,290 --> 00:41:37,260
which was very very I probably won't be

818
00:41:42,020 --> 00:41:39,300
alive tomorrow after I get off your show

819
00:41:44,540 --> 00:41:42,030
but at least I got the infestation now

820
00:41:48,560 --> 00:41:44,550
there's a group called the Blom arrays

821
00:41:52,670 --> 00:41:48,570
do you remember in Bakersfield when the

822
00:41:55,640 --> 00:41:52,680
first stealth fighter the F 17 crashed

823
00:42:01,330 --> 00:41:55,650
in Bakersfield do you remember that I

824
00:42:05,049 --> 00:42:01,340
don't write the F 17 was actually flying

825
00:42:09,599 --> 00:42:05,059
just like 1984

826
00:42:12,969 --> 00:42:09,609
and I guess secret the u2 was or the

827
00:42:17,459 --> 00:42:12,979
sr-71 which what I believe we call the

828
00:42:22,319 --> 00:42:17,469
the Blackbird if I remember the the

829
00:42:24,880 --> 00:42:22,329
nomenclature on it once they release the

830
00:42:29,279 --> 00:42:24,890
released will release the name for it

831
00:42:32,679 --> 00:42:29,289
then anyway this this stealth fighter

832
00:42:35,829 --> 00:42:32,689
crashed in Bakersfield and it was still

833
00:42:39,579 --> 00:42:35,839
top secret Tandi they had it for 10

834
00:42:44,079 --> 00:42:39,589
years right so it happened at the NBC

835
00:42:47,319 --> 00:42:44,089
the can BC KNBC helicopter right here in

836
00:42:50,529 --> 00:42:47,329
Los Angeles saw fire so they went over

837
00:42:54,189 --> 00:42:50,539
there flew it right when it went through

838
00:42:56,559 --> 00:42:54,199
there and started really rotating this

839
00:42:58,659 --> 00:42:56,569
fighter and the announcer is saying

840
00:43:00,609 --> 00:42:58,669
whether it's really strange pieces of

841
00:43:04,870 --> 00:43:00,619
wreckage here I've never seen anything

842
00:43:07,209 --> 00:43:04,880
like a square wing or octagon wing in

843
00:43:07,749 --> 00:43:07,219
the meantime this group called the Brown

844
00:43:11,199 --> 00:43:07,759
Berets

845
00:43:14,709 --> 00:43:11,209
on the other side of Bakersfield went

846
00:43:17,649 --> 00:43:14,719
and deliberately lit a fire a forest

847
00:43:21,659 --> 00:43:17,659
fire to bring all the police and all the

848
00:43:28,109 --> 00:43:21,669
people to the forest fire so the CIA

849
00:43:32,079 --> 00:43:28,119
whoever was running the stealth f17

850
00:43:35,289 --> 00:43:32,089
program or the CIA right wanted the

851
00:43:38,169 --> 00:43:35,299
people to not come to that area but it

852
00:43:42,279 --> 00:43:38,179
was too late because NBC got KNBC got

853
00:43:43,870 --> 00:43:42,289
that video out and within two days the

854
00:43:46,079 --> 00:43:43,880
government had a release and we didn't

855
00:43:49,479 --> 00:43:46,089
have such a thing as a stealth fighter

856
00:43:53,169 --> 00:43:49,489
he doesn't strike like this when you get

857
00:43:57,579 --> 00:43:53,179
in the UFO investigation and research

858
00:44:01,419 --> 00:43:57,589
that very few very few people are even a

859
00:44:03,249 --> 00:44:01,429
willow you know well sure sure and I can

860
00:44:05,439 --> 00:44:03,259
imagine you know you were saying that

861
00:44:07,269 --> 00:44:05,449
you know when you look at these videos

862
00:44:09,189 --> 00:44:07,279
you you look at them over and over and

863
00:44:11,890 --> 00:44:09,199
over again and I'm sure there's been

864
00:44:13,959 --> 00:44:11,900
times when you've gotten a video of

865
00:44:15,669 --> 00:44:13,969
something and then you know after seeing

866
00:44:17,270 --> 00:44:15,679
it so many times you sort of notice

867
00:44:18,860 --> 00:44:17,280
something else

868
00:44:20,210 --> 00:44:18,870
that maybe you didn't see the first time

869
00:44:23,060 --> 00:44:20,220
around because I know how that can

870
00:44:25,880 --> 00:44:23,070
happen if you really your eyes become

871
00:44:29,120 --> 00:44:25,890
accustomed to everything in that image

872
00:44:31,250 --> 00:44:29,130
you know and you begin to maybe pick out

873
00:44:34,310 --> 00:44:31,260
other things but I was wondering you

874
00:44:37,040 --> 00:44:34,320
know is if you do get videos and have

875
00:44:40,370 --> 00:44:37,050
received good video from all over the

876
00:44:42,140 --> 00:44:40,380
world do you have a favorite do you have

877
00:44:45,050 --> 00:44:42,150
a favorite was something that came to

878
00:44:48,530 --> 00:44:45,060
you and and and and can you tell us how

879
00:44:51,760 --> 00:44:48,540
you obtained it and what it was yes I'm

880
00:44:55,430 --> 00:44:51,770
trying to think of the producers name of

881
00:44:57,650 --> 00:44:55,440
friends the producer of friends I know

882
00:44:59,930 --> 00:44:57,660
who you're talking about and I can't

883
00:45:02,810 --> 00:44:59,940
remember his name it's a guy he was the

884
00:45:05,090 --> 00:45:02,820
supervising producer and he was very

885
00:45:09,290 --> 00:45:05,100
very interested in the paranormal in

886
00:45:13,910 --> 00:45:09,300
UFOs and then he also produced a show

887
00:45:18,500 --> 00:45:13,920
called weird TV yep and I was on that

888
00:45:20,510 --> 00:45:18,510
show for four seasons and I had a seven

889
00:45:24,260 --> 00:45:20,520
five five to seven minutes section

890
00:45:27,380 --> 00:45:24,270
called UFO Days video clip of the week

891
00:45:30,230 --> 00:45:27,390
right and we invited people we were

892
00:45:32,360 --> 00:45:30,240
talking about the strangest clip the

893
00:45:34,580 --> 00:45:32,370
strangest clip I've ever seen we need to

894
00:45:37,130 --> 00:45:34,590
go back into a little history how much

895
00:45:43,000 --> 00:45:37,140
time do we have until our next break oh

896
00:45:48,860 --> 00:45:46,370
if you were on weird TV with that

897
00:45:54,380 --> 00:45:48,870
friends producer you must have known

898
00:45:56,530 --> 00:45:54,390
Arthur mature oh the work thing one of

899
00:46:00,410 --> 00:45:56,540
the directors yeah I'll show ya

900
00:46:04,280 --> 00:46:00,420
wonderful work very well Gregory was

901
00:46:06,260 --> 00:46:04,290
Arthur hang were right in the middle of

902
00:46:09,310 --> 00:46:06,270
two different things here Arthur called

903
00:46:12,530 --> 00:46:09,320
me and asked me to go to the show right

904
00:46:15,550 --> 00:46:12,540
if I wanted to be on the show at that

905
00:46:20,510 --> 00:46:15,560
same time Don Ecker from UFO magazine

906
00:46:24,080 --> 00:46:20,520
was putting on a huge special in Disney

907
00:46:25,210 --> 00:46:24,090
World in Florida for the ride they

908
00:46:28,320 --> 00:46:25,220
opened their call

909
00:46:31,900 --> 00:46:28,330
alien encounters from the new to my land

910
00:46:34,359 --> 00:46:31,910
I remember when they well I was one of

911
00:46:40,290 --> 00:46:34,369
the people that went there because it

912
00:46:42,849 --> 00:46:40,300
was a dual type grand opening there is a

913
00:46:47,589 --> 00:46:42,859
documentary on the Internet

914
00:46:51,040 --> 00:46:47,599
you go to youtube and you type in alien

915
00:46:52,240 --> 00:46:51,050
encounters from the new Tomorrowland and

916
00:46:55,510 --> 00:46:52,250
it was done

917
00:47:01,359 --> 00:46:55,520
the host was the late host Robert Urich

918
00:47:04,720 --> 00:47:01,369
from Vegas he was the host and they flew

919
00:47:07,810 --> 00:47:04,730
us all down there of course on different

920
00:47:11,920 --> 00:47:07,820
planes da it was the greatest collection

921
00:47:15,580 --> 00:47:11,930
of UFO experts assembled in one place

922
00:47:17,620 --> 00:47:15,590
and Don Ecker really really works his

923
00:47:27,970 --> 00:47:17,630
brains out to get us all down there

924
00:47:30,970 --> 00:47:27,980
George Knapp was there who is the old

925
00:47:33,760 --> 00:47:30,980
man that passed away that him and his

926
00:47:35,920 --> 00:47:33,770
wife Jewish couple that were experts in

927
00:47:39,490 --> 00:47:35,930
the Sumerian language what was his name

928
00:47:46,240 --> 00:47:39,500
zecharia sitchin Zacharias Titian was

929
00:47:50,589 --> 00:47:46,250
their God Hopkins was there Kevin

930
00:47:53,220 --> 00:47:50,599
Randall was there I mean you name what

931
00:47:56,530 --> 00:47:53,230
they were all there and Disney also

932
00:48:00,160 --> 00:47:56,540
videotaped that with three cameras and

933
00:48:04,990 --> 00:48:00,170
at the same time I was working on a

934
00:48:06,910 --> 00:48:05,000
special by the same name called alien

935
00:48:09,970 --> 00:48:06,920
encounters from the new Tomorrowland

936
00:48:11,260 --> 00:48:09,980
that aired only on Disney owned stations

937
00:48:13,990 --> 00:48:11,270
across the country

938
00:48:19,270 --> 00:48:14,000
so I told author I'm sorry I can't do

939
00:48:21,730 --> 00:48:19,280
the show because I have you know 14

940
00:48:24,010 --> 00:48:21,740
three days at Disney World and all I

941
00:48:25,540 --> 00:48:24,020
have to do is you do television

942
00:48:28,540 --> 00:48:25,550
interviews from 8:00 in the morning

943
00:48:31,270 --> 00:48:28,550
until noon and the rest of the time I'm

944
00:48:34,660 --> 00:48:31,280
free and when I come back I'll be happy

945
00:48:38,790 --> 00:48:34,670
to do the show so the first two or three

946
00:48:42,150 --> 00:48:38,800
shows weird TV I was not on

947
00:48:44,160 --> 00:48:42,160
when I came back we went down they had a

948
00:48:46,880 --> 00:48:44,170
nice a nice studio

949
00:48:49,530 --> 00:48:46,890
a green screen and the whole bit and

950
00:48:52,020 --> 00:48:49,540
unfortunately those never never got on

951
00:48:55,080 --> 00:48:52,030
YouTube or anything but you know I

952
00:48:59,760 --> 00:48:55,090
actually have I actually have a

953
00:49:02,100 --> 00:48:59,770
collection of VHS of where TV that

954
00:49:03,810 --> 00:49:02,110
Arthur gave me yeah why are all ur shows

955
00:49:05,640 --> 00:49:03,820
- isn't that wild

956
00:49:08,220 --> 00:49:05,650
I was right you know what happens when

957
00:49:10,890 --> 00:49:08,230
when the media first approaches you and

958
00:49:15,000 --> 00:49:10,900
you know I was a furniture salesman I

959
00:49:17,610 --> 00:49:15,010
was pizza maker I just had these you

960
00:49:20,820 --> 00:49:17,620
know I was my first job with a string

961
00:49:23,520 --> 00:49:20,830
bean picker when I was 14 month old and

962
00:49:26,790 --> 00:49:23,530
then suddenly when yeah let's see we

963
00:49:31,680 --> 00:49:26,800
work ten hours a day four of us were

964
00:49:35,630 --> 00:49:31,690
Norwalk high school now is and I think

965
00:49:40,050 --> 00:49:35,640
we made 75 cents for the day oh my god

966
00:49:43,050 --> 00:49:40,060
110 degree son so it's funny how each of

967
00:49:43,920 --> 00:49:43,060
each of us one became a computer

968
00:49:49,350 --> 00:49:43,930
programmer

969
00:49:52,110 --> 00:49:49,360
for what let's see Toastmasters

970
00:49:55,740 --> 00:49:52,120
International another one became a very

971
00:50:00,020 --> 00:49:55,750
very well-known insurance insurance

972
00:50:04,980 --> 00:50:00,030
agent for the Chubb group I went into

973
00:50:08,480 --> 00:50:04,990
into UFOs and it's just interesting how

974
00:50:13,260 --> 00:50:08,490
as we age different things fall into our

975
00:50:16,080 --> 00:50:13,270
into our lap and yeah we all became from

976
00:50:18,780 --> 00:50:16,090
stringbean pictures at 14 and 15 we all

977
00:50:21,300 --> 00:50:18,790
became fairly successful businessman

978
00:50:23,880 --> 00:50:21,310
where my main campaign main reason for

979
00:50:24,690 --> 00:50:23,890
starting UFO Clearing House was not to

980
00:50:26,730 --> 00:50:24,700
make money

981
00:50:29,340 --> 00:50:26,740
my main reason was to get even with that

982
00:50:33,990 --> 00:50:29,350
desk captain that told me that I saw a

983
00:50:36,120 --> 00:50:34,000
helicopter surprised how many UFO videos

984
00:50:39,060 --> 00:50:36,130
I would get from pre-flop police

985
00:50:41,520 --> 00:50:39,070
officers from all around the country Wow

986
00:50:42,090 --> 00:50:41,530
any from the City of Industry where I

987
00:50:46,450 --> 00:50:42,100
lived

988
00:50:48,490 --> 00:50:46,460
Heights with my parents

989
00:50:52,180 --> 00:50:48,500
but the next town over was a City of

990
00:50:54,309 --> 00:50:52,190
Industry well well you know what this

991
00:50:57,130 --> 00:50:54,319
sounds like a good time to take a break

992
00:50:58,660 --> 00:50:57,140
and when we come back we're gonna be

993
00:51:01,510 --> 00:50:58,670
scooting right on into the final

994
00:51:03,460 --> 00:51:01,520
half-hour of night vision radio with me

995
00:51:06,190 --> 00:51:03,470
your host Renee Barnett and with my

996
00:51:09,720 --> 00:51:06,200
special guest tonight Dave Aaron of UFO

997
00:51:12,910 --> 00:51:09,730
audio-video Clearing House the largest

998
00:51:16,480 --> 00:51:12,920
have you still got me on there ray

999
00:51:18,430 --> 00:51:16,490
yeah you better hurry I have a special

1000
00:51:21,099 --> 00:51:18,440
surprise for all your listeners so we

1001
00:51:23,140 --> 00:51:21,109
don't want to forget okay the show okay

1002
00:51:24,790 --> 00:51:23,150
all right so hang in there with us he's

1003
00:51:26,859 --> 00:51:24,800
got a special surprise for us we'll see

1004
00:51:31,180 --> 00:51:26,869
what it is hang in there with us and

1005
00:51:32,589 --> 00:51:31,190
we'll be right back welcome back to

1006
00:51:35,380 --> 00:51:32,599
night vision I'm the neighbor Barnett

1007
00:51:37,799 --> 00:51:35,390
your host with me tonight is Dave Aaron

1008
00:51:40,390 --> 00:51:37,809
of the UFO audio-video Clearing House

1009
00:51:43,120 --> 00:51:40,400
Dave's gonna tell us about a little

1010
00:51:45,760 --> 00:51:43,130
surprise he has a little bit later but

1011
00:51:48,640 --> 00:51:45,770
we were talking about Dave when you were

1012
00:51:51,400 --> 00:51:48,650
doing weird TV with Arthur mature oh and

1013
00:51:56,079 --> 00:51:51,410
I forgive me I can't remember the

1014
00:51:59,079 --> 00:51:56,089
producers name from France but you were

1015
00:52:02,200 --> 00:51:59,089
talking about you you were showing video

1016
00:52:04,000 --> 00:52:02,210
clips you had a spot a regular spot on

1017
00:52:07,839 --> 00:52:04,010
that show where you were showing video

1018
00:52:09,910 --> 00:52:07,849
clips and I had asked you about you know

1019
00:52:12,010 --> 00:52:09,920
what your favorite clip was and what the

1020
00:52:13,660 --> 00:52:12,020
best evidence was that and I believe

1021
00:52:21,160 --> 00:52:13,670
there was something in the context of

1022
00:52:27,490 --> 00:52:21,170
that show that right right right what we

1023
00:52:33,309 --> 00:52:27,500
did what we did is we asked we asked

1024
00:52:38,920 --> 00:52:33,319
people to send in clips of the show if

1025
00:52:40,240 --> 00:52:38,930
they had shot at UFO what there was at

1026
00:52:42,400 --> 00:52:40,250
that time of course the home video

1027
00:52:48,400 --> 00:52:42,410
camera was out the candidate camcorder

1028
00:52:52,319 --> 00:52:48,410
was out and I I asked people to stand in

1029
00:52:55,690 --> 00:52:52,329
footage right so we got this footage in

1030
00:52:56,329 --> 00:52:55,700
before bob lazar for those who don't

1031
00:52:58,670 --> 00:52:56,339
know

1032
00:53:03,979 --> 00:52:58,680
Lazzaro you need to go to the Internet

1033
00:53:09,680 --> 00:53:03,989
and just quickly Dave bob lazar in 1989

1034
00:53:13,549 --> 00:53:09,690
came forward and to Las Vegas News

1035
00:53:17,209 --> 00:53:13,559
anchorman George Knapp with klas news in

1036
00:53:19,549 --> 00:53:17,219
in Las Vegas and with a story saying

1037
00:53:23,839 --> 00:53:19,559
that he was had been working at at area

1038
00:53:26,329 --> 00:53:23,849
51 and had been harassed by people

1039
00:53:29,089 --> 00:53:26,339
chasing him down and been arrested

1040
00:53:34,219 --> 00:53:29,099
because he had taken his wife and his

1041
00:53:38,209 --> 00:53:34,229
friend out to see some test flights of

1042
00:53:41,180 --> 00:53:38,219
some supposed extraterrestrial craft at

1043
00:53:43,609 --> 00:53:41,190
area 51 now Bob Lazar a story is

1044
00:53:45,289 --> 00:53:43,619
legendary now but you know if you're if

1045
00:53:47,660 --> 00:53:45,299
you're too young to remember it that's

1046
00:53:52,370 --> 00:53:47,670
sort of it in a nutshell so now go ahead

1047
00:53:57,259 --> 00:53:52,380
Dave sorry so I so anyway like I said on

1048
00:54:00,019 --> 00:53:57,269
a television show we ask people to send

1049
00:54:02,680 --> 00:54:00,029
in clips if they shot a UFO so we get

1050
00:54:06,890 --> 00:54:02,690
this clipping from West Virginia and

1051
00:54:10,400 --> 00:54:06,900
this clip you can see on the internet by

1052
00:54:13,940 --> 00:54:10,410
going to that same place I told you to

1053
00:54:17,150 --> 00:54:13,950
go to search on YouTube for Dave Aaron

1054
00:54:19,430 --> 00:54:17,160
and then there's a lot of people named

1055
00:54:21,979 --> 00:54:19,440
David on but you least show up as a

1056
00:54:25,579 --> 00:54:21,989
first second or third person plays along

1057
00:54:28,819 --> 00:54:25,589
with the least hits and first there's a

1058
00:54:31,160 --> 00:54:28,829
report of me on Fox News and it's

1059
00:54:33,620 --> 00:54:31,170
followed by that strange universe show

1060
00:54:37,190 --> 00:54:33,630
and on that stranger universe show

1061
00:54:41,120 --> 00:54:37,200
you'll see a clip there which is just an

1062
00:54:44,839 --> 00:54:41,130
outline of a UFO you see the outline

1063
00:54:48,499 --> 00:54:44,849
black disc of the UFO Bob Lazar claim

1064
00:54:52,069 --> 00:54:48,509
that UFOs work out of anti-gravity

1065
00:54:57,049 --> 00:54:52,079
propulsion light right that gravity is a

1066
00:54:58,849 --> 00:54:57,059
wave so this particular clip almost is

1067
00:55:01,219 --> 00:54:58,859
exactly like that

1068
00:55:03,950 --> 00:55:01,229
if the UFO was trending on an

1069
00:55:06,740 --> 00:55:03,960
antigravity field while the two guys

1070
00:55:09,920 --> 00:55:06,750
were talking going look at all of that

1071
00:55:13,210 --> 00:55:09,930
what is a UFO a UFO but we can see right

1072
00:55:17,750 --> 00:55:13,220
through it right and it slowly slowly

1073
00:55:19,670 --> 00:55:17,760
fade into a UFO then it fades out and

1074
00:55:22,040 --> 00:55:19,680
you only see the outside of it

1075
00:55:25,790 --> 00:55:22,050
so if gravity waves were being able to

1076
00:55:28,370 --> 00:55:25,800
be bent off the craft that is one of the

1077
00:55:31,010 --> 00:55:28,380
most amazing cliffs I have ever seen

1078
00:55:33,920 --> 00:55:31,020
because you see a disc-shaped object but

1079
00:55:40,490 --> 00:55:33,930
only the black outline of it like like

1080
00:55:42,710 --> 00:55:40,500
go away it was like going back for five

1081
00:55:45,980 --> 00:55:42,720
or six years ago probably don't even

1082
00:55:48,530 --> 00:55:45,990
know even though they probably shot one

1083
00:55:50,990 --> 00:55:48,540
of the greatest UFO Clips ever taken and

1084
00:55:53,240 --> 00:55:51,000
this was way before the computer where

1085
00:55:58,190 --> 00:55:53,250
people could use you know different

1086
00:56:00,800 --> 00:55:58,200
types of programs and and chant and

1087
00:56:02,600 --> 00:56:00,810
share and change things you know yeah do

1088
00:56:04,940 --> 00:56:02,610
you remember the back story of that

1089
00:56:06,820 --> 00:56:04,950
video like who sent it to you was it

1090
00:56:10,190 --> 00:56:06,830
just an individual did they tell you

1091
00:56:11,810 --> 00:56:10,200
what the circumstances were and I said

1092
00:56:15,020 --> 00:56:11,820
they were sent in by so-and-so and

1093
00:56:17,030 --> 00:56:15,030
so-and-so and you asked to see this but

1094
00:56:20,510 --> 00:56:17,040
you know what I never thought much about

1095
00:56:23,930 --> 00:56:20,520
it until like I think it was maybe five

1096
00:56:27,140 --> 00:56:23,940
years later that Bob Lazar came forward

1097
00:56:30,440 --> 00:56:27,150
and he was missing how the crap that he

1098
00:56:34,550 --> 00:56:30,450
saw tested an area as for suddenly uh

1099
00:56:36,290 --> 00:56:34,560
you know kind of like remember he

1100
00:56:40,120 --> 00:56:36,300
mentioned like I like a candle burning

1101
00:56:43,460 --> 00:56:40,130
and it still slowly disappeared and

1102
00:56:50,780 --> 00:56:43,470
that's exactly what this video shows is

1103
00:56:54,080 --> 00:56:50,790
uh here's a right a UFO are that you can

1104
00:56:58,970 --> 00:56:54,090
see right through he said Bob Lazar said

1105
00:57:01,460 --> 00:56:58,980
that he saw a demonstration of the

1106
00:57:03,470 --> 00:57:01,470
ability through technology to manipulate

1107
00:57:06,110 --> 00:57:03,480
time and space and the candle was one

1108
00:57:08,500 --> 00:57:06,120
one of the things one of the things that

1109
00:57:11,360 --> 00:57:08,510
they were able to do he said was

1110
00:57:13,940 --> 00:57:11,370
actually freeze the candle you know

1111
00:57:16,550 --> 00:57:13,950
freeze it freeze the the flame and

1112
00:57:19,610 --> 00:57:16,560
everything just you know make it stop

1113
00:57:20,240 --> 00:57:19,620
moving manipulate it in that way and

1114
00:57:23,060 --> 00:57:20,250
then yes

1115
00:57:25,850 --> 00:57:23,070
make it sort of disappear so that was

1116
00:57:28,880 --> 00:57:25,860
really interesting I think there's still

1117
00:57:31,840 --> 00:57:28,890
a lot to learn about the bob lazar story

1118
00:57:34,220 --> 00:57:31,850
there was a time when I owned a

1119
00:57:36,380 --> 00:57:34,230
television production company by the

1120
00:57:39,620 --> 00:57:36,390
name of Blue Book films which is a kind

1121
00:57:43,670 --> 00:57:39,630
of an obvious name and we actually owned

1122
00:57:45,890 --> 00:57:43,680
the life rights of Bob Lazar for a

1123
00:57:49,040 --> 00:57:45,900
couple of years and we're going to try

1124
00:57:50,930 --> 00:57:49,050
to get a film made we had some interest

1125
00:57:53,360 --> 00:57:50,940
but we didn't get that film made then

1126
00:57:57,320 --> 00:57:53,370
but I wonder about now if it's time now

1127
00:57:59,300 --> 00:57:57,330
to really tell that story and I wonder

1128
00:58:01,310 --> 00:57:59,310
if I remember the name of the producer

1129
00:58:03,830 --> 00:58:01,320
of friends his name was Todd Stevens

1130
00:58:07,100 --> 00:58:03,840
you're absolutely right

1131
00:58:10,220 --> 00:58:07,110
Todd Stevens we I apologize Todd Stevens

1132
00:58:11,780 --> 00:58:10,230
if you ever hear this broadcast but yes

1133
00:58:14,000 --> 00:58:11,790
I did know Todd

1134
00:58:16,040 --> 00:58:14,010
but I knew Arthur a lot better because I

1135
00:58:21,260 --> 00:58:16,050
actually worked with Arthur on strange

1136
00:58:24,340 --> 00:58:21,270
universe and actually he was working I

1137
00:58:26,690 --> 00:58:24,350
didn't know you were working there but

1138
00:58:30,140 --> 00:58:26,700
Arthur Arthur was actually in my

1139
00:58:31,820 --> 00:58:30,150
department he was a researcher and I was

1140
00:58:33,590 --> 00:58:31,830
the research director there for the

1141
00:58:37,220 --> 00:58:33,600
first year that I was there then I

1142
00:58:39,530 --> 00:58:37,230
started producing but yeah Arthur is a

1143
00:58:41,480 --> 00:58:39,540
great guy and Todd Stevens was the

1144
00:58:44,270 --> 00:58:41,490
supervising producer of France which of

1145
00:58:47,390 --> 00:58:44,280
course was a huge huge television show

1146
00:58:50,030 --> 00:58:47,400
network television hit and but he had

1147
00:58:54,080 --> 00:58:50,040
this really keen interest in the in the

1148
00:58:57,770 --> 00:58:54,090
paranormal especially in UFOs and that's

1149
00:58:59,750 --> 00:58:57,780
what his real love was I think he put up

1150
00:59:02,390 --> 00:58:59,760
all the money for the studio and the

1151
00:59:08,810 --> 00:59:02,400
green screen and the computers for weird

1152
00:59:13,040 --> 00:59:08,820
TV and he led Arthur Arthur ran the show

1153
00:59:16,930 --> 00:59:13,050
but but but but but Todd was the

1154
00:59:21,170 --> 00:59:16,940
executive producer behind it anyway I

1155
00:59:24,380 --> 00:59:21,180
want to go back to want to go back to

1156
00:59:29,360 --> 00:59:24,390
Bob and and this particular this

1157
00:59:31,490 --> 00:59:29,370
particular clip you know I'm a little

1158
00:59:32,570 --> 00:59:31,500
little disappointed with uh Stanton

1159
00:59:42,440 --> 00:59:32,580
Friedman

1160
00:59:45,380 --> 00:59:42,450
kind of has a thought pattern that it's

1161
00:59:49,280 --> 00:59:45,390
my way or the highway and he just

1162
00:59:52,670 --> 00:59:49,290
refuses to believe Bob Lazar story and

1163
00:59:55,700 --> 00:59:52,680
there's just too many things that Bob

1164
00:59:58,160 --> 00:59:55,710
Lazar has said plus another gentleman

1165
01:00:00,950 --> 00:59:58,170
that came out that said that he worked

1166
01:00:02,930 --> 01:00:00,960
with Bob Lazar and also remember when

1167
01:00:05,690 --> 01:00:02,940
Bob Lazar said he worked at Sandia

1168
01:00:08,930 --> 01:00:05,700
laboratories in New Mexico and they said

1169
01:00:11,450 --> 01:00:08,940
nope no such person no no that guy never

1170
01:00:15,380 --> 01:00:11,460
worked here and then they found his name

1171
01:00:16,910 --> 01:00:15,390
lifted in the Sandia New Mexico National

1172
01:00:20,620 --> 01:00:16,920
Laboratories remember when that story

1173
01:00:25,720 --> 01:00:20,630
came out yes he listed in the phone book

1174
01:00:29,240 --> 01:00:25,730
yep I sure do I sure do they seemed like

1175
01:00:32,810 --> 01:00:29,250
kind what here's what I think I think

1176
01:00:36,620 --> 01:00:32,820
that we are dealing for something that

1177
01:00:39,790 --> 01:00:36,630
is so beyond the comprehension rush

1178
01:00:44,570 --> 01:00:39,800
human beings like trying to show

1179
01:00:47,840 --> 01:00:44,580
Christopher Columbus right a nuclear

1180
01:00:51,290 --> 01:00:47,850
powered submarine how do you explain to

1181
01:00:55,850 --> 01:00:51,300
old Chris Wright that well see these

1182
01:00:59,150 --> 01:00:55,860
thing called uranium light it decays and

1183
01:01:01,880 --> 01:00:59,160
as it decays it creates heat and if you

1184
01:01:05,290 --> 01:01:01,890
put a boiler above that it creates steam

1185
01:01:08,690 --> 01:01:05,300
and that steam turns a turbine and that

1186
01:01:13,130 --> 01:01:08,700
turbine turns a shaft that turns a

1187
01:01:16,430 --> 01:01:13,140
propeller and that's how a submarine

1188
01:01:18,320 --> 01:01:16,440
moves underwater it would be on anything

1189
01:01:21,590 --> 01:01:18,330
Christopher Columbus could understand

1190
01:01:24,350 --> 01:01:21,600
and as you know Bob Lazar had mentioned

1191
01:01:28,310 --> 01:01:24,360
that there were a few people killed at

1192
01:01:33,320 --> 01:01:28,320
area s4 because they were trying to back

1193
01:01:37,490 --> 01:01:33,330
engineer a UFO and something went wrong

1194
01:01:40,490 --> 01:01:37,500
and the craft exploded and they told the

1195
01:01:43,990 --> 01:01:40,500
press because it made like a 5.4

1196
01:01:46,840 --> 01:01:44,000
earthquake in Nevada or Las Vegas yeah

1197
01:01:51,790 --> 01:01:46,850
underground nuclear test which it wasn't

1198
01:01:56,710 --> 01:01:51,800
it was according to Bob Lazar UFO that

1199
01:02:00,400 --> 01:01:56,720
had exploded underground so I think as

1200
01:02:04,810 --> 01:02:00,410
human beings we cannot comprehend what

1201
01:02:08,590 --> 01:02:04,820
is going on and that's why this is so so

1202
01:02:15,730 --> 01:02:08,600
top-secret I was on a show just last

1203
01:02:20,080 --> 01:02:15,740
week and we were talking about area 51

1204
01:02:21,940 --> 01:02:20,090
and the security around area 51 and you

1205
01:02:24,700 --> 01:02:21,950
know they say there's no UFOs stored

1206
01:02:29,320 --> 01:02:24,710
stored there it's strictly the test you

1207
01:02:31,630 --> 01:02:29,330
know future I'm a one-trick pony

1208
01:02:34,270 --> 01:02:31,640
literally I show up at kids parties and

1209
01:02:36,880 --> 01:02:34,280
act cute that's pretty much it so excuse

1210
01:02:38,350 --> 01:02:36,890
me for being bitter when geico says not

1211
01:02:40,540 --> 01:02:38,360
only could we save you money on car

1212
01:02:43,330 --> 01:02:40,550
insurance but we do more like give you

1213
01:02:45,250 --> 01:02:43,340
24/7 access online over the phone or

1214
01:02:49,290 --> 01:02:45,260
even via our award-winning mobile app

1215
01:02:54,730 --> 01:02:49,300
well aren't they multi-talented

1216
01:02:56,650 --> 01:02:54,740
hey I said organic carrots Geico expect

1217
01:03:00,550 --> 01:02:56,660
great savings and a whole lot more their

1218
01:03:04,900 --> 01:03:00,560
spy planes or future supersonic stealth

1219
01:03:08,380 --> 01:03:04,910
planes right logically let's just speak

1220
01:03:10,960 --> 01:03:08,390
logically if I see a new airplane that's

1221
01:03:14,710 --> 01:03:10,970
developed right and I happen to be able

1222
01:03:18,250 --> 01:03:14,720
to get in the area I mean the use of

1223
01:03:22,030 --> 01:03:18,260
deadly force really necessary because I

1224
01:03:27,100 --> 01:03:22,040
saw a new shape plane they would kill me

1225
01:03:32,590 --> 01:03:27,110
over that and oh that that that show was

1226
01:03:36,490 --> 01:03:32,600
that show was called Roswell secrets

1227
01:03:39,760 --> 01:03:36,500
unrevealed yeah and that we did that for

1228
01:03:42,220 --> 01:03:39,770
the National Geographic Channel about it

1229
01:03:45,310 --> 01:03:42,230
air at about three weeks ago so we

1230
01:03:47,560 --> 01:03:45,320
started working on it about about five

1231
01:03:49,690 --> 01:03:47,570
months ago but anyway they interviewed

1232
01:03:51,820 --> 01:03:49,700
one of the guards there and the guard

1233
01:03:54,740 --> 01:03:51,830
said yeah once I'm gonna cross that line

1234
01:03:57,290 --> 01:03:54,750
I would contact my command

1235
01:04:01,220 --> 01:03:57,300
sir and he would say open fire on the

1236
01:04:04,310 --> 01:04:01,230
lemonade them well my question to the

1237
01:04:06,320 --> 01:04:04,320
listeners in you is my question to you

1238
01:04:09,260 --> 01:04:06,330
and the listeners is because it really

1239
01:04:12,200 --> 01:04:09,270
works telling someone just because they

1240
01:04:15,080 --> 01:04:12,210
saw a new type of airplane

1241
01:04:17,660 --> 01:04:15,090
I think there's much much more that's

1242
01:04:19,880 --> 01:04:17,670
there or goes on there

1243
01:04:23,560 --> 01:04:19,890
otherwise you wouldn't have security

1244
01:04:26,540 --> 01:04:23,570
that starts six miles away from the base

1245
01:04:28,849 --> 01:04:26,550
deadly force authorized that's what the

1246
01:04:31,099 --> 01:04:28,859
signs say yes if they interviewed a

1247
01:04:34,099 --> 01:04:31,109
couple the guards are retired and the

1248
01:04:36,260 --> 01:04:34,109
guards ask their commander what they

1249
01:04:38,839 --> 01:04:36,270
should do and in the guard said they had

1250
01:04:41,270 --> 01:04:38,849
orders to open fire if people cross that

1251
01:04:44,120 --> 01:04:41,280
perimeter once you go past that fence

1252
01:04:48,700 --> 01:04:44,130
which is warning military installation

1253
01:04:53,500 --> 01:04:51,170
they do have the right to use deadly

1254
01:04:56,690 --> 01:04:53,510
force them who knows how many people

1255
01:04:58,790 --> 01:04:56,700
snuck in there or did get in here that

1256
01:05:00,560 --> 01:04:58,800
we've never seen again we really don't

1257
01:05:04,250 --> 01:05:00,570
know you know they were gonna make a

1258
01:05:08,390 --> 01:05:04,260
movie about three teenagers that's snuck

1259
01:05:11,030 --> 01:05:08,400
in area 51 and for some reason that

1260
01:05:14,810 --> 01:05:11,040
movie was never made in the movie

1261
01:05:17,180 --> 01:05:14,820
Independence Day they asked the

1262
01:05:20,300 --> 01:05:17,190
government if they could use fighter

1263
01:05:21,950 --> 01:05:20,310
planes and helicopters not the remake of

1264
01:05:24,620 --> 01:05:21,960
Independence Day but the original

1265
01:05:26,750 --> 01:05:24,630
Independence Day right they asked the

1266
01:05:29,810 --> 01:05:26,760
government if they could use jets and

1267
01:05:32,859 --> 01:05:29,820
helicopters etcetera etc and they said

1268
01:05:36,530 --> 01:05:32,869
yes as long as you don't mention area 51

1269
01:05:41,120 --> 01:05:36,540
because at that time area 51 according

1270
01:05:45,020 --> 01:05:41,130
to us peasant amateur people that base

1271
01:05:47,480 --> 01:05:45,030
didn't exist at that time so they said

1272
01:05:49,880 --> 01:05:47,490
no you cannot mention area 51 in the

1273
01:05:51,410 --> 01:05:49,890
movie and if you do you can't use any of

1274
01:05:55,250 --> 01:05:51,420
our jets or helicopters

1275
01:05:58,820 --> 01:05:55,260
so they used CGI graphics in that movie

1276
01:06:01,099 --> 01:05:58,830
instead and we're still able to in fact

1277
01:06:04,250 --> 01:06:01,109
he was the same guy that played data in

1278
01:06:07,390 --> 01:06:04,260
the Star Trek The Next Generation that

1279
01:06:09,789 --> 01:06:07,400
was the scientist at area 51 if

1280
01:06:14,470 --> 01:06:09,799
you remember the movie yeah that's that

1281
01:06:16,240 --> 01:06:14,480
Spiner I believe yep yep absolutely so

1282
01:06:19,390 --> 01:06:16,250
anyway I kind of have a special surprise

1283
01:06:22,630 --> 01:06:19,400
for your listeners there and I'm doing

1284
01:06:25,000 --> 01:06:22,640
this totally on my cost do you know

1285
01:06:26,680 --> 01:06:25,010
where the Pickwick center is in Burbank

1286
01:06:28,750 --> 01:06:26,690
I do yeah

1287
01:06:30,789 --> 01:06:28,760
been there several times I didn't know

1288
01:06:35,529 --> 01:06:30,799
what city lived in anyway The Pickwick

1289
01:06:39,339 --> 01:06:35,539
Center is a huge series of auditoriums

1290
01:06:42,309 --> 01:06:39,349
with a was a building the walls open and

1291
01:06:46,890 --> 01:06:42,319
closed to allow more and more people in

1292
01:06:51,789 --> 01:06:46,900
and about 25 years ago

1293
01:06:54,150 --> 01:06:51,799
the gentleman that ran area 51 was also

1294
01:06:57,069 --> 01:06:54,160
a musician for the LA Philharmonic

1295
01:07:00,849 --> 01:06:57,079
Orchestra and I just can't remember his

1296
01:07:04,990 --> 01:07:00,859
name right now but he ran mouflon LA and

1297
01:07:10,079 --> 01:07:05,000
I get a talk down there with video

1298
01:07:13,930 --> 01:07:10,089
called aliens captured on videotape and

1299
01:07:17,380 --> 01:07:13,940
the room held about 400 people

1300
01:07:20,680 --> 01:07:17,390
well they had about 4,000 people try to

1301
01:07:22,779 --> 01:07:20,690
show up and they had a block down block

1302
01:07:25,870 --> 01:07:22,789
down Burbank Boulevard

1303
01:07:29,470 --> 01:07:25,880
the fire marshal came and wouldn't let a

1304
01:07:32,319 --> 01:07:29,480
lot of people in it was just total total

1305
01:07:35,740 --> 01:07:32,329
panic you know about two hours before I

1306
01:07:41,109 --> 01:07:35,750
even started so if anybody would like a

1307
01:07:45,460 --> 01:07:41,119
free copy of that on DVD that entire

1308
01:07:48,549 --> 01:07:45,470
talk and you'll see what again we think

1309
01:07:51,490 --> 01:07:48,559
because we don't know for sure but there

1310
01:07:54,190 --> 01:07:51,500
were there are many strange strange

1311
01:07:58,809 --> 01:07:54,200
beings or strange types of creatures

1312
01:08:01,779 --> 01:07:58,819
that were sent to me on videotape most

1313
01:08:04,210 --> 01:08:01,789
of the ones that I showed some of them

1314
01:08:06,670 --> 01:08:04,220
shown on TV some have never been shown

1315
01:08:11,440 --> 01:08:06,680
on TV so if any of your listeners out

1316
01:08:15,039 --> 01:08:11,450
there want a free TV DVD of this all I

1317
01:08:15,680 --> 01:08:15,049
have to do is pay me my cost my cost to

1318
01:08:20,780 --> 01:08:15,690
edit it

1319
01:08:23,630 --> 01:08:20,790
mail it package it is about $10 and you

1320
01:08:26,269 --> 01:08:23,640
just even if you can't remember the

1321
01:08:32,269 --> 01:08:26,279
address if you can just write in UFO

1322
01:08:33,979 --> 01:08:32,279
house 9 2 3 - Oh it'll come to me but

1323
01:08:40,059 --> 01:08:33,989
the actual address to make it easier for

1324
01:08:46,220 --> 01:08:40,069
the post office is UFO House 107 7

1325
01:08:49,849 --> 01:08:46,230
California Street Calimesa California 9

1326
01:08:52,400 --> 01:08:49,859
- 3 - oh so if you can't remember all

1327
01:08:55,039 --> 01:08:52,410
that if you just write your whole

1328
01:08:59,840 --> 01:08:55,049
Clearing House or UFO house but have

1329
01:09:01,700 --> 01:08:59,850
that zip code there 9 2 3 - oh I get

1330
01:09:04,670 --> 01:09:01,710
hundreds and hundreds of pieces of mail

1331
01:09:07,760 --> 01:09:04,680
every day so they just know it says UFO

1332
01:09:11,479 --> 01:09:07,770
it goes to Dave Aaron but try to put the

1333
01:09:13,160 --> 01:09:11,489
address down if you can so that's why I

1334
01:09:15,590 --> 01:09:13,170
gave you that address there and anybody

1335
01:09:19,579 --> 01:09:15,600
that want to chat with me I'm always

1336
01:09:25,789 --> 01:09:19,589
open I don't hide I'm right there you

1337
01:09:32,090 --> 01:09:25,799
can email me at you why are you a nd UFO

1338
01:09:35,329 --> 01:09:32,100
LSU and UFOs at gmail.com and make sure

1339
01:09:37,670 --> 01:09:35,339
the subject line says night vision show

1340
01:09:38,450 --> 01:09:37,680
so I know it came from the show we're

1341
01:09:43,789 --> 01:09:38,460
doing right now

1342
01:09:47,840 --> 01:09:43,799
and also when you send that $10 in for

1343
01:09:48,590 --> 01:09:47,850
that talk I did on on aliens captured on

1344
01:09:50,689 --> 01:09:48,600
videotape

1345
01:09:52,820 --> 01:09:50,699
make sure you please pay me in a money

1346
01:09:55,520 --> 01:09:52,830
order because I don't have time to sit

1347
01:09:57,680 --> 01:09:55,530
and chase bounced or bad checks so you

1348
01:09:59,630 --> 01:09:57,690
gotta pay me in a money order money

1349
01:10:03,800 --> 01:09:59,640
order shouldn't cost you more than 65

1350
01:10:06,740 --> 01:10:03,810
cents so that's my surprise for you and

1351
01:10:09,500 --> 01:10:06,750
maybe a little Halloween gift were I

1352
01:10:11,990 --> 01:10:09,510
think it runs a little over an hour and

1353
01:10:15,490 --> 01:10:12,000
a half and we'll ask them other specials

1354
01:10:20,439 --> 01:10:15,500
in there just to just to keep it like a

1355
01:10:24,709 --> 01:10:20,449
around maybe two hours or so can you

1356
01:10:28,160 --> 01:10:24,719
tell us like of the aliens caught on

1357
01:10:29,060 --> 01:10:28,170
tape what do you describe what are the

1358
01:10:32,750 --> 01:10:29,070
best image

1359
01:10:37,850 --> 01:10:32,760
that you that you have on there the best

1360
01:10:40,160 --> 01:10:37,860
one it was taken in Mexico and I I was

1361
01:10:42,530 --> 01:10:40,170
presenting you know seven eight nine

1362
01:10:44,300 --> 01:10:42,540
different shots right I'm sure you've

1363
01:10:46,850 --> 01:10:44,310
seen the wrong where the alien pops up

1364
01:10:49,250 --> 01:10:46,860
in the window which has been on TV many

1365
01:10:54,290 --> 01:10:49,260
times but there was a clip that came

1366
01:10:57,890 --> 01:10:54,300
from Mexico that these two women one of

1367
01:11:00,200 --> 01:10:57,900
them happened to have a camcorder right

1368
01:11:03,440 --> 01:11:00,210
and they see this you look low in the

1369
01:11:08,990 --> 01:11:03,450
sky but the audio was in Spanish so I

1370
01:11:12,700 --> 01:11:09,000
can't understand it right so one of the

1371
01:11:19,430 --> 01:11:12,710
people that was at the new font talk

1372
01:11:22,280 --> 01:11:19,440
back in about nineteen 1998-1999 said

1373
01:11:25,370 --> 01:11:22,290
all they're saying show yourself show

1374
01:11:30,340 --> 01:11:25,380
yourself so you see this beam come down

1375
01:11:35,680 --> 01:11:30,350
and then as being appears big round

1376
01:11:40,430 --> 01:11:35,690
water not water melon squash shaped head

1377
01:11:42,200 --> 01:11:40,440
feet like iki had and you again they're

1378
01:11:45,260 --> 01:11:42,210
talking in Spanish right and I don't

1379
01:11:48,440 --> 01:11:45,270
know what they're saying so one of the

1380
01:11:51,860 --> 01:11:48,450
people that was bilingual at that Sam

1381
01:11:54,980 --> 01:11:51,870
you font talk and they're saying what

1382
01:11:57,500 --> 01:11:54,990
the person in the audience told me is

1383
01:12:00,290 --> 01:11:57,510
they're translating oh it's so ugly it's

1384
01:12:03,140 --> 01:12:00,300
so horrible looking it's so ugly Maria

1385
01:12:06,140 --> 01:12:03,150
maybe we should go out of the house and

1386
01:12:09,680 --> 01:12:06,150
she says no no I must I must take this I

1387
01:12:14,960 --> 01:12:09,690
must take this and yeah that that that

1388
01:12:17,750 --> 01:12:14,970
clip is really pretty astounding one

1389
01:12:21,110 --> 01:12:17,760
they said show yourself so we're these

1390
01:12:24,710 --> 01:12:21,120
were just lightness guy able to read

1391
01:12:28,600 --> 01:12:24,720
minds or pick their audio up they need

1392
01:12:34,340 --> 01:12:28,610
to project out a picture of a being that

1393
01:12:37,130 --> 01:12:34,350
it's really pretty fantastic and how big

1394
01:12:39,770 --> 01:12:37,140
was it I'd love to have your listeners

1395
01:12:41,350 --> 01:12:39,780
be able to view that oh I'd love to see

1396
01:12:43,390 --> 01:12:41,360
it too now how big

1397
01:12:48,000 --> 01:12:43,400
was it were you able to see it to scale

1398
01:12:55,870 --> 01:12:48,010
in any way yeah drawings of it

1399
01:12:59,230 --> 01:12:55,880
Mexico TV I mean you saw my goddamn

1400
01:13:02,290 --> 01:12:59,240
right to wanna started doing the 60

1401
01:13:06,100 --> 01:13:02,300
Minutes type TV show in Mexico right

1402
01:13:09,760 --> 01:13:06,110
after I got it he started showing it on

1403
01:13:12,340 --> 01:13:09,770
his show and they show drawings of it

1404
01:13:15,960 --> 01:13:12,350
let's like the creatures about four and

1405
01:13:25,120 --> 01:13:19,930
remember the video camera camera that

1406
01:13:31,860 --> 01:13:25,130
was the Alpha McCarran is yes yep I sure

1407
01:13:40,360 --> 01:13:37,420
whoops looks like we lost Dave so I

1408
01:13:42,040 --> 01:13:40,370
guess I'll just wrap it up and I want to

1409
01:13:44,280 --> 01:13:42,050
thank Dave Aaron for being with us

1410
01:13:47,680 --> 01:13:44,290
tonight sorry that we ended so abruptly

1411
01:13:50,800 --> 01:13:47,690
but so many interesting stories and so

1412
01:13:52,600 --> 01:13:50,810
much great video evidence again if you

1413
01:13:56,860 --> 01:13:52,610
want to take advantage of Dave's offer

1414
01:14:00,340 --> 01:13:56,870
just write to him at UFO House nine to

1415
01:14:01,630 --> 01:14:00,350
three to zero and he'll get it thank you

1416
01:14:05,890 --> 01:14:01,640
all for joining us tonight

1417
01:14:07,670 --> 01:14:05,900
take care and good night Edward good

1418
01:14:19,460 --> 01:14:07,680
night everyone